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but the again on the Kevin Cooke show

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now Heidi house is uh I don't know she's

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had some kind of problem in Chicago but

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cago it could be anything and I hope I

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hope and wish her the best but she may

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be on later she may not but probably not

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but anyway it's good to be back with you

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and got all kinds of news stories now

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later tonight after the news piece we're

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gonna have Bruce Gernon on and he's

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written a great book called Beyond

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Bermuda Triangle and believe me folks

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this is a real deal it's not some kind

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of science fiction

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I know I've experienced some of it

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secondhand and weird things happen

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they've been happening and a weird combo

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of features all the way since Columbus

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Day so anyway we'll talk about that in a

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few minutes but the news is

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unfortunately pretty pretty scary it's

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scarier than the Bermuda Triangle

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because as most of you are probably

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aware of that Kim Jung the Korean

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dictator has been you know course been

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playing with missiles and and there was

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a report recently that by the NSA I

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National Security Council and I see that

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they now have the capability to actually

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yes their missile technology is advanced

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enough that they could hit parts of the

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United States so I mean really what has

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and no you know shake his fist at the US

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long enough and not done anything and

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said today that fire and fury will be

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coming out down on North Korea unless

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they square away and they're not going

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at least a military and potentially a

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nuclear engagement in North Korea I see

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any way out of it

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this guy's a fruitcake he's not gonna

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back off the Chinese can't control him

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to vaporize the scoop this but what it

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is is you know there's questionable

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whether one of their nukes could hit the

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US but it's not questionable at all they

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could shoot a nuke into Seoul South

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Korea there's millions of people in that

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town so that's the problem

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but this is not going to have a happy

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ending so it's serious as serious as it

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could be it's not going to go away the

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they did make some efforts recently Rex

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of State guy you know he's saying that

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you know he's trying to make over truth

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to this guy you know a non-threatening

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basis and this guy was you know the Kim

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there's a moral to the story it's the

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cheap cannnot you know he could pet an

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alligator all you want but this is gonna

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you have to stand up and yes we're gonna

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have to vaporize this guy and you know

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be killed out of this there's no way out

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to the point of shooting a nuclear los

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angeles i mean that's exactly what will

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happen so we're gonna have to just go to

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war over this and this disgust that

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they'll probably and also by the way

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tests on and towards japan which they

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gonna have to result in nuclear warfare

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interested in heart you're gonna do

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something you better strike while the

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in Los Angeles saying right that's

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that's the happy news and it is it is

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see any way out of it they tried every

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bribing this that hasn't worked

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interesting like I said the Bermuda

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twenty thirty minutes they were gone

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regular study Freddie workers in Miami

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volunteer basis and he was in charge of

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hiring instructors for boating courses

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this their contents and all and he got

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to know the Admirals pretty well and he

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master yachtsman in Florida all that and

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occurrences there is no explanation no

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legitimate explanation like the one

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engine failure no these guys didn't have

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unlikely oh by the way this is not an

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isolated crash at all but but there's no

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that that could have happened and

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weird Florida news so and a lot of us

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this case it is and unfortunately the

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Bruce Gernon as a certified seaplane

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documentaries about the Bermuda Triangle

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time-warp experience often as the

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featured interviewer if you eat better

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small story I had many years ago about

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some people that were two brothers that

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those who do fireworks and so forth and

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the fireworks or whatever and that's

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mentioned failure and they you know the

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radioed in to the Coast Guard to come

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get them or whatever

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seamy lifestyle or anything untoward

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they were never seen again now that's

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whatever it was and they radioed in to

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these guys never found the boat nothing

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normal activities in both middle-aged

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guys with regular jobs and and that's

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exactly what happened so that's Florida

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of story beyond belief I believe it was

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in the late 1990s but the story was

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circa 1988 or so yeah well it's it's

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still continuing to this day so it's a

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there's something suspicious going on

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there's been a lot of disappearances in

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the past and that's still continuing

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his in his efforts is uh you know with

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of Admirals and they said ten percent of

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cigarette burning in an ashtray which

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burn out and the Coast Guard would come

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like that

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no wreckage you're seeming problem and

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the people are gone gone is just gone I

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mean without any explanation and the

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Coast Guard Cutter could tell what was

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on the surface and a ten-mile radius

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they could see if somebody took them off

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in a helicopter they could tell that and

278
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now there's no good luck explanation

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none and it's just a weird place fart it

280
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just is and I've mentioned that as a

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backstory and I know you've got a lot

282
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more exotic stories but I'm just saying

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it was interesting because I grew up

284
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with that this kind of yes well yeah I'm

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from there with what you're talking

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about I I did get to see the UFO once

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that those came from well I was high up

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in its

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spiral down we're offshore about five

290
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miles off of Boca ratone heading for

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Palm Beach and we saw a light up high

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maybe several thousand feet and it was a

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few miles away from us and and it slowly

294
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was shooting a beam of light in

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counterclockwise in rather slow motion

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as it spiraled downward and then it went

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right into the ocean and then

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disappeared so it's I think what you're

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talking about this has to do with the

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the possibility of alien abductions that

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have been with the water like underwater

302
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submerged well you think that what

303
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rico's just overrun with UFO sightings

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if I remember correctly I mean there's a

305
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fellow though I've had some contact with

306
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oh he's out of a schvitz capes me right

307
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now but he's one of Heidi Hollis is my

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co-host friends and a Warren

309
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Joshua Warren that's what it is and

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anyhow he he speaks of all kinds of

311
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oddities in Puerto Rico and it's

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supposed to be just a UFO hotbed and

313
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actually I may or may not know this

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Bruce but probably do but even

315
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Christopher Columbus when they first

316
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came to this area noticed odd lights and

317
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bizarre things there one unusual for him

318
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being a veteran Seafarer and all that

319
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and even he noticed of all things that's

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before any movies or you know anything a

321
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UFO nature being mentioned their idea

322
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and and the way he explained it reminds

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me of a UFO that I saw once when I was

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flying over Miami at night and

325
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he explained it like it looked like a

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candlelight but it was bobbing up and

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down and making strange movements and

328
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yeah I saw something very similar to

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that once that ended up being a close

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encounter the closest I've ever been to

331
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a UFO within a few feet of it really and

332
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wow that's something that really is

333
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something I mean there's obviously with

334
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this kind of track record for hundreds

335
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of years and no doubt probably thousands

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this is not a phenomena that's fleeting

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or just someone's imagination or or

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anything else it's just exotic just

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exotic stuff and there's one story I'll

340
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tell you before you get going as opening

341
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there was a well there was a

342
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I don't you're probably familiar with

343
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this story but Eastern Airlines of

344
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course was part of my upbringing because

345
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we were always flying up and down the

346
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East Coast on but there was a time when

347
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a and this was all from also from that

348
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beyond belief show they highlighted it

349
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is there was a Eastern Airlines flight

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coming into Miami who's coming in I

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guess directionally from Atlanta or

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somewhere where cut across the glades

353
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and then land in Miami and it

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disappeared from radar and they they

355
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were all bats cuz they didn't know what

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happened did the flight go down they

357
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didn't know what happened and all of a

358
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sudden it pops back on radar and lands

359
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and they didn't know what to do they

360
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said emergency vehicles out there not

361
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knowing what they'd find and the crew

362
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this was back in the time where they had

363
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the rolling ladders where it rolled up

364
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you know to the airplane like a long

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tall metal ladders and the Fluke crew

366
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came off and they're wondering what's

367
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all the hubbub why all the excitement

368
00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:00,820
and they they were disappeared off radar

369
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for ten minutes and all the watches of

370
00:17:12,430 --> 00:17:08,470
yes I remember reading about that and

371
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one of Charles Berlitz books might have

372
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been the one that was in his second book

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about the Bermuda Triangle called

374
00:17:21,430 --> 00:17:19,880
without a trace oh okay but I mean it

375
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was just so exotic and thankfully in

376
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this case nobody was hurt or disappeared

377
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but I mean just the 10 minutes which is

378
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gone it's good yeah and they were in the

379
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same exact area where I had that

380
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experience with a time warp oh they were

381
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the same same sector okay yeah they were

382
00:17:43,180 --> 00:17:38,150
coming in from the Bahamas

383
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hendrik to Miami just like me Wow well

384
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something's obviously flawed did you had

385
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a what you will I think you uh what your

386
00:17:54,850 --> 00:17:52,730
initial experience was what we were a

387
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team just learning just recently learned

388
00:18:04,120 --> 00:17:58,820
how to fly and I'd learned how to fly

389
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when I was 17 oh I was 23 when I had

390
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this phenomenal experience in the

391
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Bermuda Triangle

392
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[Music]

393
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what's he got yeah we got enough time

394
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watch what you tell the folks about it

395
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okay yeah it happened on the December

396
00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:26,600
4th of 1970 and I was and I was on

397
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Andros Island in the Bahamas it's the

398
00:18:34,900 --> 00:18:31,760
largest of all the Bahama Islands yeah

399
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and I had been doing the business there

400
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working on a resort that we were trying

401
00:18:46,750 --> 00:18:41,390
to develop nitrate the flight there at

402
00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:46,760
least a dozen times or more and it was

403
00:18:52,030 --> 00:18:50,090
Friday morning we were planning on

404
00:18:53,380 --> 00:18:52,040
taking off and back then they didn't

405
00:18:55,420 --> 00:18:53,390
have any telephones so I couldn't get

406
00:18:58,150 --> 00:18:55,430
our weather report and that's it was

407
00:19:00,820 --> 00:18:58,160
there were heavy rains so we couldn't

408
00:19:02,500 --> 00:19:00,830
take off so we had to wait until finally

409
00:19:05,140 --> 00:19:02,510
around three o'clock it started letting

410
00:19:08,260 --> 00:19:05,150
up and then that well that's when we

411
00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:08,270
actually lifted off at 3:00 p.m. exactly

412
00:19:14,230 --> 00:19:11,450
in the afternoon from fresh creeks it's

413
00:19:18,590 --> 00:19:14,240
called town

414
00:19:21,010 --> 00:19:18,600
Andros your plan on had direct to Bimini

415
00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:21,020
and then we'd make a slight turn

416
00:19:27,410 --> 00:19:24,930
northerly to go direct to Palm Beach

417
00:19:32,750 --> 00:19:27,420
International Airport and so the total

418
00:19:37,570 --> 00:19:32,760
flight was 215 miles and it should take

419
00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:37,580
about an hour and 20 or 30 minutes no

420
00:19:43,010 --> 00:19:40,890
and my dad was a co-pilot he was a

421
00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:43,020
licensed pilot and he was a chief

422
00:19:49,220 --> 00:19:46,530
navigator and and I was the pilot in

423
00:19:51,620 --> 00:19:49,230
command and we had a business partner

424
00:19:55,330 --> 00:19:51,630
with us and passenger in the back seat

425
00:19:59,270 --> 00:19:55,340
and we were flying a brand-new bonanza

426
00:20:03,110 --> 00:19:59,280
836 gorgeous airplane that's still being

427
00:20:05,230 --> 00:20:03,120
made today oh yeah the body hasn't

428
00:20:06,490 --> 00:20:05,240
changed at all it's a classic airplane

429
00:20:09,470 --> 00:20:06,500
[Music]

430
00:20:12,590 --> 00:20:09,480
it's six passengers but were there were

431
00:20:15,220 --> 00:20:12,600
only three of us you know so when we

432
00:20:19,900 --> 00:20:15,230
took off there was a light mist and

433
00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:19,910
overcast of about it so he stayed at

434
00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:25,650
thousand feet and we were hidden direct

435
00:20:35,810 --> 00:20:28,530
to Bimini we started picking up some of

436
00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:35,820
the navigational instruments electronic

437
00:20:41,660 --> 00:20:38,850
instruments for navigation we picked up

438
00:20:43,850 --> 00:20:41,670
him inane we got a direct heading to

439
00:20:47,150 --> 00:20:43,860
work Bimini and we stayed at a thousand

440
00:20:52,580 --> 00:20:47,160
feet and then when we finally got over

441
00:20:54,260 --> 00:20:52,590
the ocean we the war the atmosphere

442
00:20:56,150 --> 00:20:54,270
cleared up and there was an overcast

443
00:20:59,600 --> 00:20:56,160
anymore and it looked like there were

444
00:21:01,640 --> 00:20:59,610
clear skies and so we started climbing

445
00:21:05,050 --> 00:21:01,650
up and this is where the Great Bahama

446
00:21:09,650 --> 00:21:05,060
Bank is yeah so now we're heading

447
00:21:14,930 --> 00:21:09,660
westerly and I noticed a few miles

448
00:21:17,900 --> 00:21:14,940
offshore there's this cloud that was a

449
00:21:20,270 --> 00:21:17,910
bit unusual it just seemed to be

450
00:21:23,380 --> 00:21:20,280
hovering there at about

451
00:21:27,980 --> 00:21:23,390
500 feet above the surface and it was

452
00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:27,990
about a mile long and a thousand feet

453
00:21:38,540 --> 00:21:33,450
thick and maybe half a mile wide and it

454
00:21:41,780 --> 00:21:38,550
had real tough silvery edges it's like

455
00:21:43,220 --> 00:21:41,790
silk they were streamlined and what it

456
00:21:46,730 --> 00:21:43,230
looked like what's called a lenticular

457
00:21:49,750 --> 00:21:46,740
cloud and I didn't really think about it

458
00:21:52,430 --> 00:21:49,760
at the time but it lenticular clouds

459
00:21:54,710 --> 00:21:52,440
around South Florida and the Bahamas

460
00:21:57,530 --> 00:21:54,720
they rarely form but when they do

461
00:22:00,760 --> 00:21:57,540
they're usually did 20 or 30 thousand

462
00:22:06,740 --> 00:22:00,770
feet high not 500 feet above the ocean

463
00:22:08,530 --> 00:22:06,750
and it looked harmless so and so it

464
00:22:11,360 --> 00:22:08,540
happened to be right in my flight path

465
00:22:16,070 --> 00:22:11,370
and so I went ahead and just started

466
00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:16,080
climbing up over it and then I meter up

467
00:22:20,270 --> 00:22:18,690
Bruce but I yeah I guess let's we might

468
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:20,280
pause because we're coming up to our

469
00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:22,170
bottom the hour break and we'll pick it

470
00:22:26,900 --> 00:22:23,730
right up from that point when we get

471
00:22:30,470 --> 00:22:26,910
back ok seems good but I mean right yeah

472
00:22:32,090 --> 00:22:30,480
I mean it's the mysteries intensifying

473
00:22:38,060 --> 00:22:32,100
but let's take a break now we'll be

474
00:22:40,460 --> 00:22:38,070
right what's good be back with Bruce and

475
00:22:44,390 --> 00:22:40,470
I guess we we stopped in the middle of

476
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:44,400
all this intense mystery here with the

477
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:48,170
cloud and what happened then yeah right

478
00:22:55,970 --> 00:22:52,170
where this cloud formed it is where the

479
00:23:01,100 --> 00:22:55,980
mystery really starts it looked like a

480
00:23:04,310 --> 00:23:01,110
harmless little cloud and so I climbed

481
00:23:10,510 --> 00:23:04,320
right up over it and when I got up to

482
00:23:12,740 --> 00:23:10,520
about 3,000 feet above it I started

483
00:23:17,180 --> 00:23:12,750
filing my flight plan see I had to

484
00:23:20,990 --> 00:23:17,190
contact Miami radio it was called and I

485
00:23:24,890 --> 00:23:21,000
had to file a flight plan in order to

486
00:23:27,890 --> 00:23:24,900
legally fly back fly back to Florida and

487
00:23:31,070 --> 00:23:27,900
so I was busy filing that and not paying

488
00:23:32,130 --> 00:23:31,080
a lot of attention to this little cloud

489
00:23:37,410 --> 00:23:32,140
that I flew

490
00:23:39,690 --> 00:23:37,420
so when I completed that I looked around

491
00:23:40,380 --> 00:23:39,700
and that was probably maybe 5,000 feet

492
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:40,390
right now

493
00:23:47,010 --> 00:23:42,610
climbing up at a thousand feet per

494
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:47,020
minute and this little cloud had done

495
00:23:55,740 --> 00:23:50,490
something very unusual it had spread out

496
00:23:58,230 --> 00:23:55,750
and I could only see it all around me

497
00:24:02,730 --> 00:23:58,240
behind me in front of me and just below

498
00:24:05,810 --> 00:24:02,740
me and so I thought well well maybe it's

499
00:24:10,170 --> 00:24:05,820
a birth stage of a cumulonimbus

500
00:24:14,610 --> 00:24:10,180
thunderstorm flying right over it while

501
00:24:17,190 --> 00:24:14,620
it was born and I figured well I'm fine

502
00:24:20,580 --> 00:24:17,200
at 105 miles an hour while I'm climbing

503
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:20,590
and I figured well I'll get away from it

504
00:24:26,820 --> 00:24:24,490
in a minute or two and so I keep

505
00:24:30,870 --> 00:24:26,830
climbing and I can't get away from it

506
00:24:35,220 --> 00:24:30,880
and then it catches up to me and I go

507
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:35,230
inside it and now maybe at 6,000 feet or

508
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:41,290
so and visibility is near zero in this

509
00:24:47,610 --> 00:24:44,530
white cloud which looked normal

510
00:24:50,450 --> 00:24:47,620
inside the cloud but it would had

511
00:24:54,570 --> 00:24:50,460
updrafts and so it would give me a boost

512
00:24:56,250 --> 00:24:54,580
when I got inside it and I'd shoot up

513
00:25:00,720 --> 00:24:56,260
out of it and I'd get a couple hundred

514
00:25:03,750 --> 00:25:00,730
feet above it and then it would catch

515
00:25:06,140 --> 00:25:03,760
back up to me again I could only stay

516
00:25:09,180 --> 00:25:06,150
clear of it for maybe 30 seconds or so

517
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:09,190
yeah I go back in and again I mean this

518
00:25:12,990 --> 00:25:11,170
went on for like maybe four or five

519
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:13,000
times so it got to the point where I was

520
00:25:18,900 --> 00:25:15,490
getting so high up that's starting to

521
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:18,910
give concerned and my dad said maybe we

522
00:25:24,270 --> 00:25:21,010
ought to go back to Andros and make a

523
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:24,280
180 degree turn and then I figured well

524
00:25:28,110 --> 00:25:26,290
like this storm had built up so big I'd

525
00:25:31,050 --> 00:25:28,120
be flying right back into the heart of

526
00:25:35,310 --> 00:25:31,060
the storm and I really didn't want to do

527
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:35,320
that and so I kept climbing for a little

528
00:25:40,770 --> 00:25:38,290
more and then finally when I got to

529
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:40,780
eleven thousand five hundred ago ahead

530
00:25:43,970 --> 00:25:41,170
and make

531
00:25:47,820 --> 00:25:43,980
the time with them then we broke free oh

532
00:25:52,230 --> 00:25:47,830
I'm in the clear again so I level off

533
00:25:54,510 --> 00:25:52,240
and then I look around me and I was

534
00:25:58,710 --> 00:25:54,520
amazed to see what had happened to this

535
00:26:01,920 --> 00:25:58,720
law lenticular shaped cloud it had

536
00:26:03,870 --> 00:26:01,930
spread out on either side of me as far

537
00:26:06,990 --> 00:26:03,880
as I could see and the visibility was

538
00:26:09,330 --> 00:26:07,000
around 10 miles or more on that day and

539
00:26:11,460 --> 00:26:09,340
what I wanna how long a period it would

540
00:26:14,790 --> 00:26:11,470
take when he I mean like spreading out

541
00:26:19,110 --> 00:26:14,800
or 20 minutes 10 minutes or 10 minutes I

542
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:19,120
put the two minutes of climbing to level

543
00:26:24,120 --> 00:26:22,450
off it dead altitude that usually

544
00:26:25,950 --> 00:26:24,130
doesn't happen I mean he's storm I'm

545
00:26:28,140 --> 00:26:25,960
even the storm cloud wouldn't develop

546
00:26:29,850 --> 00:26:28,150
that quickly would it no no never not

547
00:26:32,070 --> 00:26:29,860
that well it was more than just a storm

548
00:26:34,950 --> 00:26:32,080
now it wasn't a little cumulonimbus

549
00:26:37,740 --> 00:26:34,960
thunderstorm it was a huge squall for

550
00:26:41,010 --> 00:26:37,750
apparently and it had built up to over

551
00:26:42,630 --> 00:26:41,020
20,000 feet so that's why I didn't want

552
00:26:44,370 --> 00:26:42,640
to turn around because it was building

553
00:26:46,410 --> 00:26:44,380
up behind me while I was going forward

554
00:26:49,260 --> 00:26:46,420
and I feared if I wouldn't want to go

555
00:26:51,890 --> 00:26:49,270
back into the middle of that and I

556
00:26:55,650 --> 00:26:51,900
noticed it was strange because it was

557
00:26:58,530 --> 00:26:55,660
perfectly curved like in the shape of a

558
00:27:01,410 --> 00:26:58,540
semicircle as I look behind me and to

559
00:27:06,630 --> 00:27:01,420
the sides and it seemed to have a

560
00:27:11,190 --> 00:27:06,640
perfect curve to it and most squalls

561
00:27:13,860 --> 00:27:11,200
have like lumpy lines so they may be

562
00:27:19,140 --> 00:27:13,870
curved though a lot of mark curve but

563
00:27:21,330 --> 00:27:19,150
not perfectly curved yeah I tried to

564
00:27:23,550 --> 00:27:21,340
forget about it and live it off and

565
00:27:26,070 --> 00:27:23,560
started cruising it almost 200 miles an

566
00:27:28,650 --> 00:27:26,080
hour and sat back and relaxed now for a

567
00:27:32,430 --> 00:27:28,660
little while while I was happy I escaped

568
00:27:35,870 --> 00:27:32,440
this storm I thought that was the end of

569
00:27:39,890 --> 00:27:35,880
it until just a couple minutes later I

570
00:27:43,710 --> 00:27:39,900
look in front of me and now I see

571
00:27:48,210 --> 00:27:43,720
another huge school I know it's built up

572
00:27:50,430 --> 00:27:48,220
to over 40,000 feet anyway and it's

573
00:27:51,450 --> 00:27:50,440
curved just the opposite of the one I

574
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:51,460
just escaped

575
00:27:57,890 --> 00:27:54,410
now that semicircle is

576
00:28:02,060 --> 00:27:57,900
facing in front of me instead of behind

577
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:02,070
me out then while so I couldn't fly over

578
00:28:09,470 --> 00:28:05,010
it it's way too high you know and I

579
00:28:12,350 --> 00:28:09,480
figured fly under it and I noticed that

580
00:28:14,330 --> 00:28:12,360
I can't fly under it because it's laying

581
00:28:16,610 --> 00:28:14,340
right on the surface of the ocean I was

582
00:28:21,260 --> 00:28:16,620
over the Great Bahama Bank we're this

583
00:28:23,380 --> 00:28:21,270
far it's a confounder so I'm not an

584
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:23,390
interesting instrument course through

585
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:26,730
navigating to Bimini so I stayed on that

586
00:28:30,020 --> 00:28:28,410
course and I figure I'll stay on the

587
00:28:32,210 --> 00:28:30,030
course and penetrate into it and see

588
00:28:36,380 --> 00:28:32,220
what it looks like inside so I went

589
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:36,390
inside it and the visibility wasn't that

590
00:28:42,020 --> 00:28:39,210
bad it was could see the ocean you know

591
00:28:44,870 --> 00:28:42,030
two miles high and I could see the ocean

592
00:28:48,370 --> 00:28:44,880
and visibility appeared to be a few

593
00:28:50,660 --> 00:28:48,380
miles but there wasn't any precipitation

594
00:28:52,610 --> 00:28:50,670
but no lightning or anything oh yeah

595
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:52,620
well that's the scary part do

596
00:28:57,350 --> 00:28:54,690
there was an unusual form of lightning

597
00:29:00,620 --> 00:28:57,360
going on in there it was like flashes

598
00:29:03,650 --> 00:29:00,630
instead of lightning bolts and I

599
00:29:08,300 --> 00:29:03,660
penetrated the more intense these

600
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:08,310
flashes became and it apparently was

601
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:11,130
just full of electricity so I didn't

602
00:29:18,470 --> 00:29:13,650
want to continue with all this

603
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:18,480
electronic lightning going on it was

604
00:29:25,310 --> 00:29:21,090
just way too intense so after I went in

605
00:29:28,190 --> 00:29:25,320
maybe a mile or two I decided to get out

606
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:28,200
of it so I turned left and headed due

607
00:29:35,510 --> 00:29:33,050
south like pop back out of the storm and

608
00:29:38,660 --> 00:29:35,520
started flying along the edge of it and

609
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:38,670
then I contacted Miami radio because I

610
00:29:43,970 --> 00:29:41,130
had deviated from the flight path

611
00:29:45,710 --> 00:29:43,980
and I let him know that and I told him I

612
00:29:49,930 --> 00:29:45,720
said and due south I'm gonna see if we

613
00:29:53,470 --> 00:29:49,940
fly around this squall they said go find

614
00:29:56,060 --> 00:29:53,480
call us up after you get around it and

615
00:29:59,420 --> 00:29:56,070
they had reported to me earlier that

616
00:30:01,040 --> 00:29:59,430
there were no storms in between Andros

617
00:30:03,130 --> 00:30:01,050
Island and Florida but there were

618
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:03,140
several large

619
00:30:07,490 --> 00:30:05,850
scattered storms in South Florida that I

620
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:07,500
should be able to circumnavigate to get

621
00:30:13,100 --> 00:30:11,370
the bobbies yeah so I'm flying along the

622
00:30:14,900 --> 00:30:13,110
edge of this storm and I keep looking

623
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:14,910
for a way to get around it and then I

624
00:30:22,610 --> 00:30:18,570
noticed it's curving back and connecting

625
00:30:26,690 --> 00:30:22,620
to the storm that I just escaped

626
00:30:28,340 --> 00:30:26,700
oh yes in other words it if you were

627
00:30:31,310 --> 00:30:28,350
looking at it from a satellite it would

628
00:30:33,830 --> 00:30:31,320
look kind of like a donut you know yeah

629
00:30:36,620 --> 00:30:33,840
be like 40 miles in diameter and then

630
00:30:41,690 --> 00:30:36,630
with the 20 mile clear opening in the

631
00:30:43,910 --> 00:30:41,700
middle row so that's not common practice

632
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:43,920
I mean dogs usually people do this right

633
00:30:51,020 --> 00:30:48,450
no so I call this a time storm and I've

634
00:30:58,460 --> 00:30:51,030
actually had some radar images of them

635
00:31:01,250 --> 00:30:58,470
forming and I realized that I was pretty

636
00:31:05,030 --> 00:31:01,260
much trapped inside this strange storm

637
00:31:08,390 --> 00:31:05,040
and I couldn't fly back to Andros Wow

638
00:31:12,020 --> 00:31:08,400
and so then I saw the usual thing

639
00:31:14,690 --> 00:31:12,030
happened and apparently it happened on

640
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:14,700
the exact opposite end of where this

641
00:31:20,270 --> 00:31:17,010
storm performed it's like this small and

642
00:31:24,050 --> 00:31:20,280
take care cloud had spread out into the

643
00:31:27,110 --> 00:31:24,060
shape of this circle yeah right over the

644
00:31:31,850 --> 00:31:27,120
surface and built up high at the same

645
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:31,860
time and it meant on the bottom I mean

646
00:31:40,210 --> 00:31:36,330
it was like a huge valley in between the

647
00:31:44,180 --> 00:31:40,220
top part of it so I figured well oh

648
00:31:47,660 --> 00:31:44,190
that's aim it toward Miami so I'll shoot

649
00:31:53,420 --> 00:31:47,670
through that valley you know and so I

650
00:31:55,010 --> 00:31:53,430
made a turn toward the west and started

651
00:31:58,850 --> 00:31:55,020
aiming for the valley but then in these

652
00:32:03,820 --> 00:31:58,860
two anvil heads formed on the top of

653
00:32:08,180 --> 00:32:03,830
each cloud and then the to animal heads

654
00:32:12,830 --> 00:32:08,190
connected and so this huge horizontal

655
00:32:15,390 --> 00:32:12,840
tunnel formed oh then it was like a mile

656
00:32:22,900 --> 00:32:15,400
in diameter to start off with

657
00:32:24,700 --> 00:32:22,910
well and I consulted with my dad and he

658
00:32:28,090 --> 00:32:24,710
agreed that that was probably the only

659
00:32:30,910 --> 00:32:28,100
way to escape this storm he's a lot of

660
00:32:33,100 --> 00:32:30,920
freaking out too I guess huh yeah well

661
00:32:36,790 --> 00:32:33,110
we're concentrating on flying the

662
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:36,800
airplane sure trying to get back home

663
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:41,210
and well so we decided to go ahead and

664
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:44,450
go for it and and I noticed that the

665
00:32:51,820 --> 00:32:47,330
tunnel was getting smaller and it was

666
00:32:56,020 --> 00:32:51,830
like at least ten miles long and it

667
00:32:58,390 --> 00:32:56,030
started shrinking in diameter as we

668
00:33:00,280 --> 00:32:58,400
aimed for it and then I saw that it was

669
00:33:02,980 --> 00:33:00,290
a little below us it was the center of

670
00:33:05,140 --> 00:33:02,990
it was around 10,000 so I started diving

671
00:33:07,350 --> 00:33:05,150
down and then I noticed it was closing

672
00:33:12,010 --> 00:33:07,360
kind of fast so I went to full power

673
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:12,020
then so we didn't we reached the

674
00:33:17,770 --> 00:33:16,130
entrance of the tunnel it was probably

675
00:33:22,890 --> 00:33:17,780
maybe seven or eight hundred feet in

676
00:33:26,410 --> 00:33:22,900
diameter Wow and then when the aircraft

677
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:26,420
penetrated into the tunnel something

678
00:33:35,020 --> 00:33:31,130
incredible happened well when I when I

679
00:33:38,590 --> 00:33:35,030
viewed the tunnel from outside it it had

680
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:38,600
smooth edges to it and the Sun was

681
00:33:46,030 --> 00:33:42,010
shining through it making it glow bright

682
00:33:52,150 --> 00:33:46,040
silvery white and the edges were very

683
00:33:57,550 --> 00:33:52,160
silky smooth and the Sun was setting it

684
00:34:02,450 --> 00:33:57,560
was like 3:30 exactly 3:30 in the

685
00:34:10,940 --> 00:34:05,289
when the aircraft entered these

686
00:34:13,490 --> 00:34:10,950
instantly these strange clouds formed

687
00:34:16,940 --> 00:34:13,500
inside the tunnel they were like puffs

688
00:34:20,450 --> 00:34:16,950
of clouds they were like see the size of

689
00:34:23,299 --> 00:34:20,460
a bus you know sorry

690
00:34:25,099 --> 00:34:23,309
knot or bow they're about the size say

691
00:34:27,319 --> 00:34:25,109
like a bus or Volkswagen bus or a

692
00:34:30,950 --> 00:34:27,329
regular bus they all were a little bit

693
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:30,960
difference in size yeah and they they

694
00:34:36,790 --> 00:34:32,490
were separate from each other but they

695
00:34:39,230 --> 00:34:36,800
formed lines that rotate it

696
00:34:41,059 --> 00:34:39,240
counterclockwise and they went all the

697
00:34:44,299 --> 00:34:41,069
way to the exit the other end of the

698
00:34:48,369 --> 00:34:44,309
tunnel and they were like covering off

699
00:34:53,089 --> 00:34:48,379
of the the tunnel walls they were like

700
00:34:58,549 --> 00:34:53,099
20 feet or so off the tunnel walls 10

701
00:35:02,540 --> 00:34:58,559
feet or so no one's really quite figured

702
00:35:03,950 --> 00:35:02,550
out why that happened well this is

703
00:35:05,780 --> 00:35:03,960
totally different than any other thing

704
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:05,790
he'd seen before I'm sure oh yeah no I

705
00:35:10,430 --> 00:35:07,530
never seen anything like that before

706
00:35:14,799 --> 00:35:10,440
I believe what I was seeing was the

707
00:35:19,220 --> 00:35:14,809
fabric of time when that happened right

708
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:19,230
yeah I was seeing time wall it could be

709
00:35:23,450 --> 00:35:21,210
yeah of course I can't relate to it in

710
00:35:25,579 --> 00:35:23,460
any way but I mean it sounds like it's

711
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:25,589
not like anything you deserve as a pilot

712
00:35:30,109 --> 00:35:26,970
and uh

713
00:35:32,359 --> 00:35:30,119
golly that just sounds like a nightmare

714
00:35:34,549 --> 00:35:32,369
a living nightmare I'm glad you got out

715
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:34,559
of it well that's when time started

716
00:35:40,549 --> 00:35:37,770
changing because I have a lot of photos

717
00:35:43,789 --> 00:35:40,559
of these tunnels in in my new book I've

718
00:35:46,010 --> 00:35:43,799
got a the best photo I've ever taken up

719
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:46,020
on one of these tunnels that actually

720
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:48,450
there's two of them and it's over the

721
00:35:53,359 --> 00:35:50,930
Everglades where there's been

722
00:35:56,450 --> 00:35:53,369
experiences with foie gras actually

723
00:36:02,000 --> 00:35:56,460
experience this electronic fog over the

724
00:36:04,430 --> 00:36:02,010
Everglades in 1996 Oh so that in my book

725
00:36:07,010 --> 00:36:04,440
there's a really good photo the tunnels

726
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:07,020
are it's about five miles long

727
00:36:12,270 --> 00:36:09,450
and it's so it's a good example of what

728
00:36:15,630 --> 00:36:12,280
these tunnels look like

729
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:15,640
and that should have taken me at the

730
00:36:20,820 --> 00:36:18,130
speed I was going in the distance the

731
00:36:24,330 --> 00:36:20,830
tunnel was about three minutes to reach

732
00:36:27,810 --> 00:36:24,340
the other end of the tunnel sure but it

733
00:36:28,650 --> 00:36:27,820
only took around 20 seconds 20 seconds

734
00:36:30,750 --> 00:36:28,660
yeah

735
00:36:34,830 --> 00:36:30,760
because time was changing right right

736
00:36:36,990 --> 00:36:34,840
then I was starting to change then the

737
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:37,000
tunnel was rapidly closing so and then

738
00:36:42,210 --> 00:36:39,450
so when I reached the end of the tunnel

739
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:42,220
then and if you look at my the cover of

740
00:36:49,290 --> 00:36:47,170
my book it shows the aircraft getting

741
00:36:50,670 --> 00:36:49,300
you any job turn on the oven they

742
00:36:52,140 --> 00:36:50,680
offered me the trial of looking at right

743
00:36:55,950 --> 00:36:52,150
now yeah yeah

744
00:37:02,630 --> 00:36:55,960
it shows the tunnel exit when the

745
00:37:07,890 --> 00:37:02,640
airplane is only like maybe like a

746
00:37:10,350 --> 00:37:07,900
thousand feet or less from the exit and

747
00:37:14,970 --> 00:37:10,360
now that and it had closed down to a

748
00:37:18,240 --> 00:37:14,980
diameter of about 40 feet well when I

749
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:18,250
reached the end of the tongue it was

750
00:37:25,650 --> 00:37:20,290
only thirty feet because the wing tips

751
00:37:30,420 --> 00:37:25,660
scraped the edges of the tunnel and and

752
00:37:33,330 --> 00:37:30,430
then when I look back at the tunnel it

753
00:37:38,940 --> 00:37:33,340
collapsed and and it formed like a slip

754
00:37:40,590 --> 00:37:38,950
and slip kept rotating clockwise instead

755
00:37:43,340 --> 00:37:40,600
of counterclockwise because I was

756
00:37:47,250 --> 00:37:43,350
looking at it from the other side yeah

757
00:37:51,450 --> 00:37:47,260
then then another incredible thing

758
00:37:55,910 --> 00:37:51,460
happens the the clear blue sky and that

759
00:38:00,930 --> 00:37:55,920
we were aiming for instantly vanished

760
00:38:04,230 --> 00:38:00,940
bad well this is where what I call

761
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:04,240
electronic fog attached itself to the

762
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:12,130
aircraft and it also gave us a sensation

763
00:38:16,250 --> 00:38:15,370
of zero-gravity that I've never felt

764
00:38:18,780 --> 00:38:16,260
before

765
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:18,790
because it wasn't just Co gravity it was

766
00:38:25,990 --> 00:38:22,890
a combination feeling of hydroplaning

767
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:26,000
skidding yo forward

768
00:38:33,130 --> 00:38:30,290
like somehow skipping forward yeah it

769
00:38:36,190 --> 00:38:33,140
could feel it in my body and along with

770
00:38:39,540 --> 00:38:36,200
the zero gravity and it lasted about ten

771
00:38:49,180 --> 00:38:39,550
seconds while ice fog attached to us oh

772
00:38:53,829 --> 00:38:49,190
and that's part of the theory where the

773
00:38:56,339 --> 00:38:53,839
latest theory is like Professor David

774
00:39:01,720 --> 00:38:56,349
Paris I've been working with him for

775
00:39:03,309 --> 00:39:01,730
five six years or so scientists from the

776
00:39:05,260 --> 00:39:03,319
University of Nebraska he's the

777
00:39:07,690 --> 00:39:05,270
physicist and a meteorologist

778
00:39:14,700 --> 00:39:07,700
we've been on TV together like five

779
00:39:18,460 --> 00:39:14,710
times documentaries and he believes that

780
00:39:26,260 --> 00:39:18,470
when I came out of that tunnel I thought

781
00:39:32,339 --> 00:39:26,270
I was 90 miles east of Miami okay but he

782
00:39:34,990 --> 00:39:32,349
says I was only 10 miles east of my M

783
00:39:35,890 --> 00:39:35,000
thought he figured that well at first I

784
00:39:41,220 --> 00:39:35,900
couldn't believe it either

785
00:39:44,890 --> 00:39:41,230
but it took me a few months to the grasp

786
00:39:45,930 --> 00:39:44,900
what he's talking about and then he's

787
00:39:48,339 --> 00:39:45,940
got it all

788
00:39:53,670 --> 00:39:48,349
then we there's a chapter about him in

789
00:39:57,010 --> 00:39:53,680
my book he spells it out mathematically

790
00:40:00,130 --> 00:39:57,020
as to what happened and he's got even a

791
00:40:02,620 --> 00:40:00,140
lot more detailing a website that he has

792
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:02,630
called the science behind Bruce gardens

793
00:40:07,870 --> 00:40:05,050
flight oh really

794
00:40:10,690 --> 00:40:07,880
he's I thought when they came out of

795
00:40:17,290 --> 00:40:10,700
that tunnel and entered this electronic

796
00:40:19,089 --> 00:40:17,300
fog that it attached to me which is took

797
00:40:21,910 --> 00:40:19,099
me 30 years to figure that out and I

798
00:40:27,460 --> 00:40:21,920
believe it's it's gonna become a fact

799
00:40:29,290 --> 00:40:27,470
someday but y'all know I thought that I

800
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:29,300
was in this fog for three minutes and

801
00:40:34,420 --> 00:40:33,050
then it electronically participated for

802
00:40:37,990 --> 00:40:34,430
me it's like it was an electronic

803
00:40:38,510 --> 00:40:38,000
dissipation when these slits formed

804
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:38,520
around

805
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:41,850
playing the first day right like a lines

806
00:40:47,810 --> 00:40:43,650
and they were parallel to the direction

807
00:40:50,060 --> 00:40:47,820
of flight and since I didn't realize

808
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:50,070
this was attached to me I thought I was

809
00:40:56,570 --> 00:40:54,570
flying through this fog and so my mind

810
00:41:00,050 --> 00:40:56,580
made me think these slits were like a

811
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:00,060
few miles long but in reality they were

812
00:41:07,580 --> 00:41:04,770
only maybe a few hundred yards long it's

813
00:41:10,900 --> 00:41:07,590
like a sphere of electricity

814
00:41:15,650 --> 00:41:10,910
combined with the fog and magnetism that

815
00:41:20,060 --> 00:41:15,660
connects to the vessel and so that the

816
00:41:21,650 --> 00:41:20,070
slits opened up the the lines turned

817
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:21,660
into slits and then the slits kept

818
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:25,050
opening up and I could see blue sky

819
00:41:31,460 --> 00:41:28,290
through the slits and they took about

820
00:41:35,240 --> 00:41:31,470
ten seconds for them to dissipate and

821
00:41:37,940 --> 00:41:35,250
then it was all clear blue sky and then

822
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:37,950
one hundred glad to see that yeah I had

823
00:41:42,500 --> 00:41:40,890
been contacted to Miami radio and was

824
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:42,510
they were trying to locate me and they

825
00:41:48,740 --> 00:41:47,130
couldn't find me on radar they came back

826
00:41:53,060 --> 00:41:48,750
down the radio and they were all excited

827
00:41:54,770 --> 00:41:53,070
me they said we've got an airplane

828
00:41:56,990 --> 00:41:54,780
directly over Miami Beach and I said

829
00:41:59,690 --> 00:41:57,000
well no that can't be me because I'm

830
00:42:03,380 --> 00:41:59,700
still looking for Bimini about 80 miles

831
00:42:05,890 --> 00:42:03,390
away you know y'all and so but then my

832
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:05,900
eyes focused and I could see it was

833
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:11,010
Miami Beach and so I signed up with him

834
00:42:14,750 --> 00:42:13,050
then I flew on to Palm Beach

835
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:14,760
International and I had to fly way out

836
00:42:18,770 --> 00:42:17,010
west over there were glades to get

837
00:42:21,770 --> 00:42:18,780
around a huge storm that was over Fort

838
00:42:24,830 --> 00:42:21,780
Lauderdale yeah and so I had to go out

839
00:42:30,260 --> 00:42:24,840
of my way so the flight was more like

840
00:42:34,970 --> 00:42:30,270
250 miles instead of 215 and then when

841
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:34,980
we landed I noticed that the time was

842
00:42:43,460 --> 00:42:40,050
strange it it only took like 47 minutes

843
00:42:45,970 --> 00:42:43,470
to make the flight and normally it takes

844
00:42:48,830 --> 00:42:45,980
like at least an hour and 20 minutes

845
00:42:50,609 --> 00:42:48,840
service way off yeah I got yeah so I

846
00:42:53,089 --> 00:42:50,619
couldn't understand

847
00:42:57,539 --> 00:42:53,099
what happened but I realized I had

848
00:43:01,769 --> 00:42:57,549
experienced something really phenomenal

849
00:43:03,930 --> 00:43:01,779
so I oh yeah started putting it to

850
00:43:08,099 --> 00:43:03,940
memory we right at that point there but

851
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:08,109
the back to the professor para see when

852
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:11,249
when I came out of that tunnel

853
00:43:21,509 --> 00:43:15,249
he believes and and he's got this on

854
00:43:26,099 --> 00:43:21,519
mathematically explained that it's kind

855
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:26,109
of like a wormhole it's I instantly it

856
00:43:33,450 --> 00:43:30,130
was like I was teleported you know there

857
00:43:37,589 --> 00:43:33,460
would be 80 miles after I came out of

858
00:43:42,089 --> 00:43:37,599
the tunnel instantly eighty miles in a

859
00:43:45,599 --> 00:43:42,099
fraction of a second well then I

860
00:43:48,870 --> 00:43:45,609
actually slowed down after that and I

861
00:43:52,980 --> 00:43:48,880
was ten miles offshore of Miami and so

862
00:43:54,870 --> 00:43:52,990
it took the normal three minutes to

863
00:44:00,989 --> 00:43:54,880
reach Miami start C I entered that

864
00:44:04,109 --> 00:44:00,999
tunnel at exactly 3:30 and I ended up in

865
00:44:08,700 --> 00:44:04,119
Miami at three thirty three and twenty

866
00:44:10,380 --> 00:44:08,710
seconds for you obviously you were

867
00:44:14,009 --> 00:44:10,390
dealing I'm glad your dad was with you

868
00:44:15,359 --> 00:44:14,019
as a co-pilot or as a navigator and the

869
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:15,369
business partner too because I mean

870
00:44:19,589 --> 00:44:17,170
which touch on your own sanity and

871
00:44:21,839 --> 00:44:19,599
everything I guess because that would be

872
00:44:24,720 --> 00:44:21,849
a mind-warping experience which we just

873
00:44:31,970 --> 00:44:24,730
went through yeah well it was you know

874
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:31,980
the our passenger was trying to help and

875
00:44:36,539 --> 00:44:34,450
he thought he saw an island within that

876
00:44:41,609 --> 00:44:36,549
I I took a look at it and it was just a

877
00:44:45,690 --> 00:44:41,619
dark area of the clouds of the fog and

878
00:44:49,170 --> 00:44:45,700
then he something happened to him and he

879
00:44:51,630 --> 00:44:49,180
became I guess you'd call it nauseous

880
00:44:55,789 --> 00:44:51,640
but but he couldn't pronounce words

881
00:44:58,049 --> 00:44:55,799
anymore oh really yeah

882
00:45:00,809 --> 00:44:58,059
it was almost like he was dying I

883
00:45:03,299 --> 00:45:00,819
reminds me of a guy that worked for me

884
00:45:03,490 --> 00:45:03,309
that that died no last words I had with

885
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:03,500
him

886
00:45:08,650 --> 00:45:06,650
when we're nonsense words he couldn't

887
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:08,660
really pronounce anything that's the way

888
00:45:20,220 --> 00:45:14,330
he was and then my dad he went into a

889
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:23,260
when I was talking to the radar

890
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:26,090
controller and he said he couldn't

891
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:28,970
identify its anywhere man yeah grab the

892
00:45:35,050 --> 00:45:30,890
mic rip the microphone out of my hands

893
00:45:39,460 --> 00:45:35,060
and start screaming at him oh really Wow

894
00:45:42,370 --> 00:45:39,470
custom animated and yeah and you never

895
00:45:44,380 --> 00:45:42,380
what trusty the Arrakis about ability of

896
00:45:46,410 --> 00:45:44,390
acting the stuff sure but you're

897
00:45:49,030 --> 00:45:46,420
reacting to stuff that was just

898
00:45:51,340 --> 00:45:49,040
unprecedented and not your experience

899
00:45:53,380 --> 00:45:51,350
I'm sure yeah will during up but so I

900
00:45:58,980 --> 00:45:53,390
had to kind of grab the mic back from

901
00:46:02,800 --> 00:45:58,990
him come coming down girl

902
00:46:04,180 --> 00:46:02,810
wow what a what a deal boy so I guess

903
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:04,190
you finally landed in Miami you're

904
00:46:10,210 --> 00:46:08,090
pretty darn happy huh yeah Miami and

905
00:46:15,460 --> 00:46:10,220
then we turned north and we went to Palm

906
00:46:17,890 --> 00:46:15,470
Beach International oh yeah so yeah we

907
00:46:21,790 --> 00:46:17,900
were happy definitely happy to make it

908
00:46:23,410 --> 00:46:21,800
back yeah yeah what you knew all three

909
00:46:24,790 --> 00:46:23,420
of you probably do you just experienced

910
00:46:28,210 --> 00:46:24,800
something that's way out of the ordinary

911
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:28,220
way super paranormal I guess you might

912
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:30,610
call it yeah yeah

913
00:46:36,910 --> 00:46:34,850
supernatural unexplainable all we really

914
00:46:37,420 --> 00:46:36,920
really couldn't even talk to each other

915
00:46:41,910 --> 00:46:37,430
about it

916
00:46:45,630 --> 00:46:41,920
because it couldn't really explain it

917
00:46:48,370 --> 00:46:45,640
yeah I know I so baffling yes I guess so

918
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:48,380
so I didn't tell anybody about it for

919
00:46:56,350 --> 00:46:53,450
just over a year because I didn't know

920
00:47:00,340 --> 00:46:56,360
what to tell people and then then I was

921
00:47:03,820 --> 00:47:00,350
watching the Dick Cavett show he had a

922
00:47:07,300 --> 00:47:03,830
late night show and I had a scientist

923
00:47:11,290 --> 00:47:07,310
named Ivan Sanderson on oh yes I

924
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:11,300
remember that name I sure do yeah and he

925
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:13,490
had done a lot of research about this

926
00:47:20,130 --> 00:47:15,010
phenomena

927
00:47:21,930 --> 00:47:20,140
and he started explaining how it had

928
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:21,940
something to do with time he said and

929
00:47:28,620 --> 00:47:24,010
that's what I mean I I realized that

930
00:47:32,130 --> 00:47:28,630
time was the key to the explanation of

931
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:32,140
what I experienced what had been to

932
00:47:36,630 --> 00:47:34,330
cover those businesses well I'll tell

933
00:47:38,910 --> 00:47:36,640
you what bursts were just about to our

934
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:38,920
top of the hour break let's let's take a

935
00:47:41,940 --> 00:47:40,330
break and we'll be right back and talks

936
00:47:46,950 --> 00:47:41,950
more about this issue we'll be right

937
00:47:49,020 --> 00:47:46,960
back okay Kim well it's great to be back

938
00:47:51,390 --> 00:47:49,030
with Bruce Gernon and boy that was a

939
00:47:53,790 --> 00:47:51,400
heck of a story that must like an C that

940
00:47:55,980 --> 00:47:53,800
would last experience would last for

941
00:47:57,630 --> 00:47:55,990
your whole life and I want to mention

942
00:48:03,090 --> 00:47:57,640
before we get back into but Bruce at his

943
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:03,100
website is electronic fog calm and he's

944
00:48:08,490 --> 00:48:05,050
a oh my goodness he's written lots of

945
00:48:11,910 --> 00:48:08,500
boats well no that's that's Rob this

946
00:48:15,170 --> 00:48:11,920
they go for I'm sure but electronic fog

947
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:15,180
calm now Bruce there was one other

948
00:48:22,890 --> 00:48:21,130
experience Oh golly I guess I guess

949
00:48:26,460 --> 00:48:22,900
there's so many different experiences in

950
00:48:29,090 --> 00:48:26,470
Florida that he could cope you could

951
00:48:31,050 --> 00:48:29,100
have many many books just on those but

952
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:31,060
of course I mentioned the Eastern

953
00:48:37,380 --> 00:48:32,890
Airlines people that lost ten minutes

954
00:48:39,599 --> 00:48:37,390
and time but aren't there a lot of

955
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:39,609
experiences around Andros Island with

956
00:48:45,750 --> 00:48:44,490
UFOs and things like that yes Stefan

957
00:48:48,599 --> 00:48:45,760
Andersson

958
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:48,609
Israel tamiya is the center of the

959
00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:52,650
Bermuda Triangle and there's been many

960
00:49:00,450 --> 00:48:57,570
encounters all around Anderson on the

961
00:49:03,630 --> 00:49:00,460
western shore of Andros Island is where

962
00:49:08,910 --> 00:49:03,640
the Great Bahama Bank is that's Sony

963
00:49:11,310 --> 00:49:08,920
like 15 to 20 feet deep and it's a semi

964
00:49:14,900 --> 00:49:11,320
secret base called Auto Tech down there

965
00:49:19,140 --> 00:49:14,910
that right and and there based on the

966
00:49:21,750 --> 00:49:19,150
eastern shore of Andros and and right on

967
00:49:25,580 --> 00:49:21,760
the eastern shore is the tongue of the

968
00:49:29,750 --> 00:49:25,590
ocean which is a very unusual

969
00:49:32,030 --> 00:49:29,760
body of water that that connects to the

970
00:49:36,650 --> 00:49:32,040
the deep Atlantic and the Sargasso Sea

971
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:36,660
and that and it comes in and goes by and

972
00:49:43,310 --> 00:49:39,570
rose first Nassau and then it makes it

973
00:49:45,530 --> 00:49:43,320
curved and it goes north and south for

974
00:49:49,610 --> 00:49:45,540
about 100 miles and it's about 30 miles

975
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:49,620
wide and it's 6,000 feet deep with the

976
00:49:59,150 --> 00:49:53,010
Lord that's that's where the the Navy

977
00:50:02,930 --> 00:49:59,160
has a top secret base for submarine

978
00:50:04,540 --> 00:50:02,940
research supposedly I wonder if they're

979
00:50:07,940 --> 00:50:04,550
researching this is what I'm wondering

980
00:50:14,020 --> 00:50:07,950
well that's the hint that they call it

981
00:50:19,150 --> 00:50:14,030
the area underwater area 51 you know and

982
00:50:27,410 --> 00:50:25,400
submerged new UFOs in the area and I had

983
00:50:31,100 --> 00:50:27,420
y'all better mm-hmm

984
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:31,110
I'm meeting once for the a guy that was

985
00:50:41,210 --> 00:50:34,890
an executive for one of the commanders

986
00:50:44,660 --> 00:50:41,220
there but he was a scientist that we

987
00:50:47,660 --> 00:50:44,670
were at a local restaurant and we were

988
00:50:55,190 --> 00:50:47,670
at the bar waiting for the dinner call

989
00:50:58,730 --> 00:50:55,200
and answer so he told the bartender to

990
00:51:01,040 --> 00:50:58,740
ask me if I would join him because he

991
00:51:05,230 --> 00:51:01,050
knew who I was he recognized me because

992
00:51:08,510 --> 00:51:05,240
I've been on a lot of documentaries sure

993
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:08,520
so I went over and joined him and he had

994
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:12,170
the name had a nice t-shirt on and

995
00:51:18,620 --> 00:51:15,570
publisher didn't uh it said Autec on the

996
00:51:23,150 --> 00:51:18,630
chest oh yeah which is the name of that

997
00:51:25,580 --> 00:51:23,160
facility yeah so yes I realized oh I

998
00:51:28,270 --> 00:51:25,590
think he's one of the guys for that

999
00:51:31,380 --> 00:51:28,280
works and so he said yeah he's a

1000
00:51:36,750 --> 00:51:31,390
scientist with the submarines and

1001
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:36,760
he says getting ready to retire pretty

1002
00:51:42,030 --> 00:51:39,850
soon and he probably had a few too many

1003
00:51:43,950 --> 00:51:42,040
drinks and he says I'm gonna tell you

1004
00:51:50,130 --> 00:51:43,960
two incredible stories

1005
00:51:56,490 --> 00:51:50,140
oh and so then he told me that he was in

1006
00:51:57,930 --> 00:51:56,500
the submarine not too long ago and he

1007
00:52:01,970 --> 00:51:57,940
was on the southern end of that tongue

1008
00:52:04,380 --> 00:52:01,980
of the ocean about 3,000 feet down

1009
00:52:07,110 --> 00:52:04,390
testing the submarines and and the

1010
00:52:13,500 --> 00:52:07,120
missiles whether they call them

1011
00:52:16,350 --> 00:52:13,510
torpedoes and all of a sudden all their

1012
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:16,360
electronic navigational instruments when

1013
00:52:20,250 --> 00:52:18,010
haywire which is what happened to me

1014
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:20,260
when I was in this electronic fog same

1015
00:52:27,090 --> 00:52:24,370
thing compasses were rotating you know

1016
00:52:31,770 --> 00:52:27,100
they couldn't identify their exact

1017
00:52:33,720 --> 00:52:31,780
location through their instruments but

1018
00:52:37,370 --> 00:52:33,730
they knew they were on the south end of

1019
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:37,380
the tongue of the ocean sure

1020
00:52:45,330 --> 00:52:40,570
so then after several minutes similar to

1021
00:52:46,310 --> 00:52:45,340
me they the instruments start working

1022
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:46,320
again

1023
00:52:54,450 --> 00:52:50,530
and so they verified their position and

1024
00:52:57,570 --> 00:52:54,460
now they're at the north end of the

1025
00:52:59,130 --> 00:52:57,580
tongue of the ocean they had done

1026
00:53:02,130 --> 00:52:59,140
something similar to what I did they

1027
00:53:05,580 --> 00:53:02,140
only they did it underwater in a

1028
00:53:09,890 --> 00:53:05,590
submarine they can't 100 miles in three

1029
00:53:14,070 --> 00:53:09,900
minutes which is impossible sure Wow

1030
00:53:15,690 --> 00:53:14,080
yeah I mean I did that you know like a

1031
00:53:16,020 --> 00:53:15,700
vegetable application being possible

1032
00:53:16,830 --> 00:53:16,030
right now

1033
00:53:19,090 --> 00:53:16,840
yeah

1034
00:53:22,430 --> 00:53:19,100
[Music]

1035
00:53:23,900 --> 00:53:22,440
I wonder there's been some all kinds of

1036
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:23,910
rumors about our tech as far as what

1037
00:53:26,690 --> 00:53:25,770
they're really working on but a matter

1038
00:53:28,460 --> 00:53:26,700
of fact there's even been a couple

1039
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:28,470
paranormal shows that have alluded to

1040
00:53:33,380 --> 00:53:30,930
our tech they had some kids they found

1041
00:53:34,820 --> 00:53:33,390
down there and they're hunting ducks or

1042
00:53:36,650 --> 00:53:34,830
whatever they were doing on Andros and

1043
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:36,660
they let him go but the commander

1044
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:38,370
basically said we could lock you up and

1045
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:39,810
throw away the key if we wanted to or

1046
00:53:45,740 --> 00:53:41,210
something like that

1047
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:45,750
well the goings on at Alltech 100 miles

1048
00:53:50,180 --> 00:53:46,650
and three meths

1049
00:53:54,710 --> 00:53:50,190
fantastic obviously it suspends the

1050
00:53:56,470 --> 00:53:54,720
normal laws of physics I guess yeah but

1051
00:54:01,340 --> 00:53:56,480
that's the same thing that I did though

1052
00:54:03,770 --> 00:54:01,350
yeah I was about two miles high wow

1053
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:03,780
that's that is just something that

1054
00:54:10,700 --> 00:54:06,770
really is what an exciting experience

1055
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:10,710
well you know there of course there's

1056
00:54:15,830 --> 00:54:13,170
been many other stories down there like

1057
00:54:17,990 --> 00:54:15,840
that but yours is just phenomenal I I

1058
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:18,000
guess well I guess you all talked about

1059
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:20,850
it for years or I guess I read justice

1060
00:54:26,030 --> 00:54:22,650
it wasn't too upsetting to talk about or

1061
00:54:28,220 --> 00:54:26,040
know just the first year I didn't talk

1062
00:54:29,990 --> 00:54:28,230
about it because it was unexplainable

1063
00:54:34,240 --> 00:54:30,000
but I've been talking about it non-stop

1064
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:34,250
now for 46 years

1065
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:38,130
I guess I guess the shock is over bagus

1066
00:54:41,060 --> 00:54:39,570
I just wonder how y'all reacted and

1067
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:41,070
reacted among each other for a while I

1068
00:54:46,490 --> 00:54:44,130
guess was yeah well the passions not

1069
00:54:52,030 --> 00:54:46,500
over and I'm passionate about it because

1070
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:52,040
I feel it's very important that that

1071
00:55:01,130 --> 00:54:55,770
mankind really knows about this it's

1072
00:55:05,240 --> 00:55:01,140
it's just as important as lightning or a

1073
00:55:09,020 --> 00:55:05,250
hurricane or a tornado oh yes absolutely

1074
00:55:13,130 --> 00:55:09,030
someday I hope that it will be

1075
00:55:17,350 --> 00:55:13,140
identified sitting similar terms it'll

1076
00:55:20,860 --> 00:55:17,360
become a meteorological term just as

1077
00:55:24,790 --> 00:55:20,870
familiar as lightning there will be

1078
00:55:27,860 --> 00:55:24,800
something called electronic fog that

1079
00:55:29,590 --> 00:55:27,870
everyone needs to know about because it

1080
00:55:31,720 --> 00:55:29,600
can happen on the ground

1081
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:31,730
which I explained in my book some

1082
00:55:36,330 --> 00:55:34,370
incredible cases that it's had two

1083
00:55:42,420 --> 00:55:36,340
people happened to people on the ground

1084
00:55:45,010 --> 00:55:42,430
and we can hear hot or the sea yeah

1085
00:55:46,290 --> 00:55:45,020
well now flight 19 it was a famous

1086
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:46,300
that's right go ahead

1087
00:55:52,330 --> 00:55:49,370
well it's gonna in the immediate future

1088
00:55:55,750 --> 00:55:52,340
when they realize that it's real it will

1089
00:55:57,190 --> 00:55:55,760
save lives especially for aviators this

1090
00:56:01,090 --> 00:55:57,200
is one of the things that I have a hard

1091
00:56:03,390 --> 00:56:01,100
time understanding and because I suppose

1092
00:56:08,370 --> 00:56:03,400
because it's controversial it's like the

1093
00:56:11,260 --> 00:56:08,380
professional pilots kind of ignore this

1094
00:56:13,720 --> 00:56:11,270
because it's all they just what the part

1095
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:13,730
of meteorology so since it's not a part

1096
00:56:18,340 --> 00:56:15,890
of meteorology meteorologists don't

1097
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:18,350
recognize it so since meteorologists

1098
00:56:22,330 --> 00:56:20,210
don't recognize it professional pilots

1099
00:56:25,570 --> 00:56:22,340
don't recognize it and look what

1100
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:25,580
happened to flight 19 and the Malaysian

1101
00:56:31,090 --> 00:56:28,610
airliner that were just losses probably

1102
00:56:38,050 --> 00:56:31,100
the greatest airplane mystery in modern

1103
00:56:39,610 --> 00:56:38,060
times and 240 people who died and I

1104
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:39,620
believe that they were in an electronic

1105
00:56:45,490 --> 00:56:42,530
fog and they had no idea they were in it

1106
00:56:50,250 --> 00:56:45,500
and if they knew what electronic fog was

1107
00:56:52,390 --> 00:56:50,260
they probably could have escaped it yeah

1108
00:56:55,420 --> 00:56:52,400
was there some kind of

1109
00:56:57,820 --> 00:56:55,430
I mean if it's exists and it's been

1110
00:57:00,070 --> 00:56:57,830
experienced so thoroughly then I wonder

1111
00:57:01,630 --> 00:57:00,080
why I was mainline science not want to

1112
00:57:03,610 --> 00:57:01,640
acknowledge it is that it or well

1113
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:03,620
they're starting to something like this

1114
00:57:11,890 --> 00:57:07,450
it's that important for all of mankind

1115
00:57:15,370 --> 00:57:11,900
takes a long time I mean it took like 30

1116
00:57:19,420 --> 00:57:15,380
years for scientists to finally come up

1117
00:57:22,660 --> 00:57:19,430
with the term of tornado they knew there

1118
00:57:25,780 --> 00:57:22,670
was this thing that twisted around took

1119
00:57:27,130 --> 00:57:25,790
30 years to identify when I'd be modded

1120
00:57:28,630 --> 00:57:27,140
how they wrestled with it for that long

1121
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:28,640
I didn't I didn't know that at all no

1122
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:31,130
yeah and well look at the Hurricanes

1123
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:36,770
dude Spanish must like billions of

1124
00:57:40,630 --> 00:57:39,530
dollars worth of treasures in their

1125
00:57:43,510 --> 00:57:40,640
ships

1126
00:57:47,290 --> 00:57:43,520
oh all the time idea that there was such

1127
00:57:50,050 --> 00:57:47,300
a thing as a hurricane you know there

1128
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:50,060
was a guy that was a of what he called a

1129
00:57:54,540 --> 00:57:52,490
salvage guy for Fidel Castro for years

1130
00:57:56,860 --> 00:57:54,550
and he got 10% of whatever galleys he

1131
00:57:58,630 --> 00:57:56,870
galleons he brought up and he was a

1132
00:58:02,740 --> 00:57:58,640
billionaire before it was all over and

1133
00:58:04,270 --> 00:58:02,750
his 10% all right so it takes a long

1134
00:58:07,510 --> 00:58:04,280
time so that's what keeps me going

1135
00:58:10,150 --> 00:58:07,520
anyway - that's why I don't feel like

1136
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:10,160
does that believe that I know it's gonna

1137
00:58:15,070 --> 00:58:12,410
take a long time for this to happen you

1138
00:58:18,220 --> 00:58:15,080
know maybe another 20 years or something

1139
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:18,230
they're getting closer that my friend

1140
00:58:25,810 --> 00:58:23,090
John quasar you ever hear him he is a

1141
00:58:28,780 --> 00:58:25,820
very popular book I'm permitted triangle

1142
00:58:32,190 --> 00:58:28,790
that came out right around the same time

1143
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:32,200
as my first book on it came out around

1144
00:58:41,470 --> 00:58:38,450
2005 and he had a short story in there

1145
00:58:43,330 --> 00:58:41,480
about me he's probably the most more

1146
00:58:45,870 --> 00:58:43,340
about the Bermuda Triangle through his

1147
00:58:48,370 --> 00:58:45,880
word research than anyone in the world

1148
00:58:50,380 --> 00:58:48,380
and so now he's come out with a second

1149
00:58:56,050 --> 00:58:50,390
book called Bermuda Triangle number two

1150
00:58:57,670 --> 00:58:56,060
and all in this book coincidentally it

1151
00:59:02,380 --> 00:58:57,680
came out don't lost exactly at the same

1152
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:02,390
time as my new blood then oh yeah he

1153
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:04,370
talks about electronic fog throughout

1154
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:10,450
the entire book and so he's recognizing

1155
00:59:18,730 --> 00:59:15,410
my theory of electronic fog it's being

1156
00:59:23,020 --> 00:59:18,740
that the the main theory of the Bermuda

1157
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:23,030
Triangle phenomena the number one theory

1158
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:24,650
and there's like a dozen different

1159
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:28,490
theories yeah he goes on and on in his

1160
00:59:40,510 --> 00:59:35,450
book telling about the my theory is what

1161
00:59:40,810 --> 00:59:40,520
it's all about really why I don't want

1162
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:40,820
us

1163
00:59:48,460 --> 00:59:45,530
break I didn't want to get it see going

1164
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:48,470
on and cut you right off or anything

1165
00:59:52,030 --> 00:59:51,050
like that but I had a just in brief I'm

1166
00:59:53,870 --> 00:59:52,040
just to see if you had a similar

1167
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:53,880
experience down there I had a

1168
00:59:58,940 --> 00:59:55,650
friend that was a petty officer of the

1169
01:00:02,720 --> 00:59:58,950
watch on a naval carrier that was going

1170
01:00:05,750 --> 01:00:02,730
from Galveston to what is it Pensacola

1171
01:00:08,540 --> 01:00:05,760
and what happened was they they saw

1172
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:08,550
lights of another ship that didn't show

1173
01:00:13,250 --> 01:00:11,730
up on radar and there was 300 seamen

1174
01:00:14,690 --> 01:00:13,260
watching this and the Pentagon got

1175
01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:14,700
involved with it because it was near a

1176
01:00:18,380 --> 01:00:17,130
carrier you know I mean of course

1177
01:00:19,970 --> 01:00:18,390
they're excited about their carriers

1178
01:00:22,220 --> 01:00:19,980
because they're such important vessels

1179
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:22,230
and anyhow they saw lights of another

1180
01:00:26,300 --> 01:00:24,810
ship and everybody saw it

1181
01:00:28,490 --> 01:00:26,310
and it didn't show up on the Pentagon's

1182
01:00:32,270 --> 01:00:28,500
radar the ship's radar or anything else

1183
01:00:34,460 --> 01:00:32,280
and if you experience things like that

1184
01:00:38,690 --> 01:00:34,470
in the Bermuda Triangle or no instances

1185
01:00:45,470 --> 01:00:38,700
like that where they see no ghostly

1186
01:00:47,030 --> 01:00:45,480
lights or something well it was just

1187
01:00:54,890 --> 01:00:47,040
over a year later where I had that

1188
01:00:57,020 --> 01:00:54,900
experience with the a flying saucer this

1189
01:00:58,910 --> 01:00:57,030
was just amazing this was just amazing

1190
01:01:00,890 --> 01:00:58,920
because they actually saw the running

1191
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:00,900
lights of the ship and those that show

1192
01:01:06,410 --> 01:01:02,970
up on the radar yet yet other ships did

1193
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:06,420
show up what an experience was amazing -

1194
01:01:15,710 --> 01:01:09,810
it was it was a perfect was clear night

1195
01:01:19,670 --> 01:01:15,720
and then I took my girlfriend up and we

1196
01:01:21,230 --> 01:01:19,680
went flying we're coming to our last

1197
01:01:23,330 --> 01:01:21,240
break let's get right into it as soon as

1198
01:01:28,580 --> 01:01:23,340
we get back okay I don't want to step on

1199
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:28,590
this one we'll be right wall freight to

1200
01:01:33,380 --> 01:01:30,330
be back to Bruce and we've got some

1201
01:01:35,180 --> 01:01:33,390
really really good stories here and of

1202
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:35,190
course time's wasting on us like it

1203
01:01:39,020 --> 01:01:37,050
always does we've got a good guest but I

1204
01:01:42,770 --> 01:01:39,030
want to also mention that Bruce's book

1205
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:42,780
is beyond the Bermuda Triangle and he

1206
01:01:48,710 --> 01:01:46,650
wrote it Bruce Gernon did with Bob

1207
01:01:51,500 --> 01:01:48,720
MacGregor as a contributing author and

1208
01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:51,510
it's his website is once again

1209
01:01:57,740 --> 01:01:54,770
electronic fog calm but Bruce you're uh

1210
01:02:01,010 --> 01:01:57,750
you were mentioning the UFO sighting

1211
01:02:04,430 --> 01:02:01,020
you'd seen them describing that yes it

1212
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:04,440
was just over a year

1213
01:02:08,329 --> 01:02:07,170
after I had that experience in the

1214
01:02:11,809 --> 01:02:08,339
Bermuda Triangle

1215
01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:11,819
and we went flying at night in the same

1216
01:02:16,250 --> 01:02:13,530
airplane then I had that experience in

1217
01:02:18,579 --> 01:02:16,260
and I went up with my girlfriend because

1218
01:02:22,370 --> 01:02:18,589
there's such a beautiful clear night

1219
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:22,380
yeah we thought we'd just check it out

1220
01:02:29,359 --> 01:02:24,450
and look at the lights of South Florida

1221
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:29,369
so we took off and from Palm Beach

1222
01:02:34,309 --> 01:02:31,530
International and we started heading

1223
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:34,319
south toward Miami and and so I climbed

1224
01:02:40,460 --> 01:02:38,010
all the way up to 10,000 feet so it

1225
01:02:42,349 --> 01:02:40,470
seems odd that I would do that because

1226
01:02:45,819 --> 01:02:42,359
that's the altitude I was at when I went

1227
01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:45,829
through that tunnel and so we flew over

1228
01:02:51,500 --> 01:02:49,290
yeah we've-- city in miami and saw the

1229
01:02:53,349 --> 01:02:51,510
incredible lights and then then we

1230
01:02:57,380 --> 01:02:53,359
started hitting offshore and we saw

1231
01:02:59,620 --> 01:02:57,390
Miami Beach and then so we headed out

1232
01:03:02,569 --> 01:02:59,630
and there wasn't any moon that night and

1233
01:03:06,020 --> 01:03:02,579
we went about five miles offshore and it

1234
01:03:09,140 --> 01:03:06,030
was like a black abyss underneath us the

1235
01:03:13,579 --> 01:03:09,150
ocean and we could see the stars above

1236
01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:13,589
us so and then we look off to work

1237
01:03:21,290 --> 01:03:19,290
Bimini 50 miles away and we see this

1238
01:03:25,339 --> 01:03:21,300
strange light and it kind of reminds me

1239
01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:25,349
of when Christopher Columbus reported a

1240
01:03:30,620 --> 01:03:28,050
strange light it looked like a candle

1241
01:03:32,839 --> 01:03:30,630
light but it was you know bobbing up and

1242
01:03:36,290 --> 01:03:32,849
down and making these erratic movements

1243
01:03:40,069 --> 01:03:36,300
sideways and backwards watched it for a

1244
01:03:41,270 --> 01:03:40,079
minute or so we both saw it and wonder

1245
01:03:46,910 --> 01:03:41,280
what the heck is that

1246
01:03:52,359 --> 01:03:46,920
it was amber in color like a candle

1247
01:03:55,849 --> 01:03:52,369
light and then all of a sudden it shoots

1248
01:03:57,890 --> 01:03:55,859
directly toward us oh wow

1249
01:04:02,210 --> 01:03:57,900
then I didn't realize it at the time it

1250
01:04:07,250 --> 01:04:02,220
was on the same exact flight path that I

1251
01:04:11,540 --> 01:04:07,260
took when I flew through that tunnel and

1252
01:04:13,570 --> 01:04:11,550
it's aiming right at us and it only took

1253
01:04:17,350 --> 01:04:13,580
around our seconds for it to

1254
01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:17,360
come right at us I'm cruising about an

1255
01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:20,090
80 miles an hour so this thing's going

1256
01:04:25,510 --> 01:04:21,970
thousand miles an hour

1257
01:04:27,940 --> 01:04:25,520
Wow and then it gets right in front of

1258
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:27,950
us and then I'm looking at it and I can

1259
01:04:35,050 --> 01:04:32,330
see this it's this is a not reflection

1260
01:04:38,470 --> 01:04:35,060
it's it's for real it saw it it's

1261
01:04:42,010 --> 01:04:38,480
massive it's metallic and it had like a

1262
01:04:44,700 --> 01:04:42,020
it was saucer shape two to three hundred

1263
01:04:49,330 --> 01:04:44,710
feet in diameter and 50 60 feet deep

1264
01:04:54,220 --> 01:04:49,340
thick and a hand a dome on the top of it

1265
01:04:57,520 --> 01:04:54,230
oh yeah and I'm thinking wow this is the

1266
01:04:59,680 --> 01:04:57,530
end for me it's tough like the classic

1267
01:05:03,580 --> 01:04:59,690
UFO shape they described but yeah oh

1268
01:05:05,470 --> 01:05:03,590
yeah this is classic shape and so well

1269
01:05:06,850 --> 01:05:05,480
instead of go ahead and crashing right

1270
01:05:09,940 --> 01:05:06,860
into and I said what the heck I'm gonna

1271
01:05:11,620 --> 01:05:09,950
make a shot turn to the left and and so

1272
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:11,630
I made it turn to the left and while I

1273
01:05:16,750 --> 01:05:13,370
was making that turn I thought that was

1274
01:05:19,090 --> 01:05:16,760
this that was we were gonna die but then

1275
01:05:22,390 --> 01:05:19,100
while I made the turn I look over and

1276
01:05:24,820 --> 01:05:22,400
then it was gone it just disappeared but

1277
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:24,830
I mean I can't within feet a few feet of

1278
01:05:33,580 --> 01:05:31,730
it is that close call that was pretty

1279
01:05:35,590 --> 01:05:33,590
incredible we both saw it

1280
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:35,600
I'll bet it was I'll bet it was I

1281
01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:44,440
famous psychic a good friend of my

1282
01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:48,770
co-author Rob Rob MacGregor he has a

1283
01:05:56,980 --> 01:05:51,410
chapter in our book and he did research

1284
01:06:00,430 --> 01:05:56,990
on our flight and so he talks about what

1285
01:06:02,710 --> 01:06:00,440
he'd this what he could see with his

1286
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:02,720
psychic abilities and it's incredible

1287
01:06:11,830 --> 01:06:05,810
how he can see these things without

1288
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:11,840
experiencing but he gives me his latest

1289
01:06:18,610 --> 01:06:15,290
thing that we've been in touch with him

1290
01:06:22,810 --> 01:06:18,620
it's not in our book though that he's

1291
01:06:24,839 --> 01:06:22,820
telling us how he can see that there are

1292
01:06:29,050 --> 01:06:24,849
these huge

1293
01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:29,060
motherships oh yeah maybe close to my

1294
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:36,050
law and they're they're shaped like a

1295
01:06:46,660 --> 01:06:42,490
cigar and they they don't have a smooth

1296
01:06:49,810 --> 01:06:46,670
skin they have like they don't dimples

1297
01:06:52,570 --> 01:06:49,820
sorta like almost like a cigar you know

1298
01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:52,580
there's not a perfect sometime are near

1299
01:06:57,609 --> 01:06:55,250
perfect okay so others may have like the

1300
01:06:58,390 --> 01:06:57,619
bumps in them and dimples and what pots

1301
01:07:01,690 --> 01:06:58,400
work well

1302
01:07:05,740 --> 01:07:01,700
yeah so that's what these have and and

1303
01:07:10,109 --> 01:07:05,750
the reason they're shaped like that is

1304
01:07:11,500 --> 01:07:10,119
because they are a living organism oh

1305
01:07:15,570 --> 01:07:11,510
really

1306
01:07:22,089 --> 01:07:15,580
yeah and and what has happened is the

1307
01:07:26,849 --> 01:07:22,099
the aliens have learned how to take

1308
01:07:29,829 --> 01:07:26,859
advantage of them it's kind of like how

1309
01:07:33,849 --> 01:07:29,839
many thousands of years ago we learned

1310
01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:33,859
how to ride horses sure sure so they've

1311
01:07:39,670 --> 01:07:36,410
learned how to ride these things and in

1312
01:07:44,410 --> 01:07:39,680
these things fall they travel throughout

1313
01:07:47,589 --> 01:07:44,420
the universe from starting to learn and

1314
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:47,599
they're huge and and within them they

1315
01:07:57,910 --> 01:07:52,970
carry the the classic shape flying

1316
01:07:59,260 --> 01:07:57,920
saucers oh really yeah Reeth sort of

1317
01:08:01,660 --> 01:07:59,270
they're like mother ships or whatever

1318
01:08:03,370 --> 01:08:01,670
you know like the mothership they're you

1319
01:08:06,609 --> 01:08:03,380
know the aliens are in their vehicles

1320
01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:06,619
and everything are inside of them and

1321
01:08:17,950 --> 01:08:13,970
they are no one to form a cloud all

1322
01:08:21,519 --> 01:08:17,960
around them when they become on earth

1323
01:08:26,499 --> 01:08:21,529
and they're within visible range they

1324
01:08:28,660 --> 01:08:26,509
can turn into like a cloud so look at

1325
01:08:33,470 --> 01:08:28,670
them and they can't see him

1326
01:08:35,210 --> 01:08:33,480
and so the theory is that they'll then

1327
01:08:38,930 --> 01:08:35,220
take your cloud I was telling you about

1328
01:08:42,470 --> 01:08:38,940
that first encounter sure that was the

1329
01:08:45,380 --> 01:08:42,480
mothership was in that cloud and I just

1330
01:08:51,010 --> 01:08:45,390
have folks with my guests right over at

1331
01:08:55,729 --> 01:08:51,020
all when it was getting ready to depart

1332
01:08:59,510 --> 01:08:55,739
planet Earth and go to another star and

1333
01:09:05,269 --> 01:08:59,520
and so I got caught up and it's similar

1334
01:09:07,039 --> 01:09:05,279
to jumbo jets weight tip turbulence and

1335
01:09:09,110 --> 01:09:07,049
it created you know what I wonder you

1336
01:09:11,990 --> 01:09:09,120
know what I wonder Bruce is with all the

1337
01:09:13,820 --> 01:09:12,000
satellite technology we have and have

1338
01:09:17,059 --> 01:09:13,830
had for many years I wonder how much the

1339
01:09:18,380 --> 01:09:17,069
government really knows about the oh the

1340
01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:18,390
mechanics of what you're talking about

1341
01:09:24,050 --> 01:09:20,370
where they seen these things pop in and

1342
01:09:26,269 --> 01:09:24,060
pop out because we had a guy on years

1343
01:09:28,729 --> 01:09:26,279
ago was kind of a halfway friend of mine

1344
01:09:31,550 --> 01:09:28,739
or was at the time Colonel John

1345
01:09:33,559 --> 01:09:31,560
Alexander and I talked to him he was a

1346
01:09:36,769 --> 01:09:33,569
green beret colonel yes but he'd also

1347
01:09:38,809 --> 01:09:36,779
been a consultant with NASA for twenty

1348
01:09:40,610 --> 01:09:38,819
years he also was Prez of the

1349
01:09:42,079 --> 01:09:40,620
International remote viewers Association

1350
01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:42,089
so he had a lot of has handed a lot of

1351
01:09:48,019 --> 01:09:45,930
different fields and asked him you know

1352
01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:48,029
how good our satellite technology was he

1353
01:09:50,630 --> 01:09:49,410
said well you could read it of what

1354
01:09:52,309 --> 01:09:50,640
brand of cigarettes you have in your

1355
01:09:57,170 --> 01:09:52,319
pocket or something if you were smoker

1356
01:10:01,370 --> 01:09:57,180
and how much we've seen a scene with

1357
01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:01,380
these satellites and all this yeah I'm

1358
01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:03,090
surprised that the satellites haven't

1359
01:10:11,660 --> 01:10:06,170
identified these time storms that I call

1360
01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:11,670
well I have them on radar but and I

1361
01:10:19,190 --> 01:10:15,410
believe that eventually the drone

1362
01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:19,200
probably operated by NASA will be able

1363
01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:23,130
to fly through one of these

1364
01:10:29,450 --> 01:10:26,610
time teleport Texas I call that one like

1365
01:10:32,770 --> 01:10:29,460
the one I flew through what a mirror you

1366
01:10:36,350 --> 01:10:32,780
have it's what I'm thinking

1367
01:10:38,689 --> 01:10:36,360
telling anybody oh they don't tell

1368
01:10:40,459 --> 01:10:38,699
anybody anything really but what I'm

1369
01:10:42,169 --> 01:10:40,469
just guessing that that's why I asked

1370
01:10:44,780 --> 01:10:42,179
him Alexander just for trying to pry me

1371
01:10:47,060 --> 01:10:44,790
for information is that yes in other

1372
01:10:49,069 --> 01:10:47,070
words our satellite technologies way

1373
01:10:50,930 --> 01:10:49,079
sophisticated more than we realize the

1374
01:10:52,700 --> 01:10:50,940
general public would realize and I

1375
01:10:54,770 --> 01:10:52,710
wonder if this odd tech place which is a

1376
01:10:56,410 --> 01:10:54,780
very high-level secret installation

1377
01:10:59,750 --> 01:10:56,420
Andros I wonder if that's what their

1378
01:11:03,280 --> 01:10:59,760
whole effort is is to either communicate

1379
01:11:05,780 --> 01:11:03,290
or study this alien technology really

1380
01:11:11,450 --> 01:11:05,790
yeah you would think so especially being

1381
01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:11,460
located in Andros Island Oh No well

1382
01:11:15,080 --> 01:11:13,170
Bruce it's been awful good having you

1383
01:11:17,930 --> 01:11:15,090
it's been fantastic stories I urge

1384
01:11:22,100 --> 01:11:17,940
everybody to get your book beyond the

1385
01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:22,110
Bermuda Triangle and also to oh go to

1386
01:11:26,270 --> 01:11:24,690
your website electronic fog comm I think

1387
01:11:30,050 --> 01:11:26,280
this is fascinating information that

1388
01:11:31,790 --> 01:11:30,060
needs to be studied really don't yes

1389
01:11:35,350 --> 01:11:31,800
thanks for having me on and yeah I hope

1390
01:11:38,780 --> 01:11:35,360
the word spreads out that there is an

1391
01:11:41,149 --> 01:11:38,790
electronic fog and and that is what's

1392
01:11:43,060 --> 01:11:41,159
causing this main mystery that they call

1393
01:11:45,379 --> 01:11:43,070
the Bermuda Triangle

1394
01:11:48,649 --> 01:11:45,389
why aren't you everybody to buy the book

1395
01:11:51,439 --> 01:11:48,659
and once again I thank you very much for

1396
01:11:51,859 --> 01:11:51,449
being on the show Bruce and we'll keep

1397
01:11:54,290 --> 01:11:51,869
in touch

1398
01:11:57,319 --> 01:11:54,300
we sure will all right Kevin great

1399
01:11:58,990 --> 01:11:57,329
thanks right now you bet you have a good

1400
01:12:02,870 --> 01:11:59,000
evening

1401
01:12:04,250 --> 01:12:02,880
okay well I guess folks that was some

1402
01:12:05,990 --> 01:12:04,260
good stuff I mean that you're talking

1403
01:12:08,270 --> 01:12:06,000
about experiences of nobody experiences

1404
01:12:10,250 --> 01:12:08,280
anyhow I wish you a good evening and